Todays linked in comments about the "Science" in the science of reincarnation


Person who wrote        Science supporting reincarnation? Can you provide us with a link to an actual scientific report that tells us they support reincarnation. Are you sure you're not confusing the word science for your personal religious beliefs? 28m ago

DeleteBob Good oh absolutly, that is the point, the science not my belief. Start at www.thescienceofreincarnation.com. The book is an overview of the science using the standard scientific method. You will find a working sylabus there. In its narative it will take you to Stanford, Princeton, and UVA to show you the individual work by peered reviewed respected scientists and how the overall nature of thier collective work make more than a compelling case, it may be the propable case. Less than a minute ago

This is reprinted from the Schwartz Report which reprinted it from the Raw Story. What does this have to do with reincarnation? The science supporting reincarnation comes from a variety of sources, this is our using non locality in the lab. Your consciousness has a non local component to it and we are pressing on with our scientific understanding of it.

A new milestone has been reached in the development of a practical quantum teleportation system - researchers have for the first time succeeded in the teleportation of information between two separate clouds of gas atoms, over long-distances. And not just once, the method is apparently already extremely reliable - working every single time that it’s been attempted. There are two glass containers, each containing a cloud of billions of caesium gas atoms. Both glass containers are enclosed in a chamber with a magnetic field. The two glass containers are not connected to each other, but information is teleported from the one glass cloud to the other by means of laser light. It’s been possible for quite some time now to 'teleport” information on the quantum level from light to light. And a couple of years back, the same researchers who reached this recent milestone were able to teleport information between between light and gas atoms for the first time. But this new achievement takes that a step further - achieving a very reliable means of gas to gas quantum teleportation over long-distances. 'It is a very important step for quantum information research to have achieved such stable results that every attempt will succeed,” says Eugene Polzik, professor and head of the research center Quantop at the Niels Bohr Institute at the University of Copenhagen. The new experiments were performed in the labs of the research group, located under the Niels Bohr Institute. It’s setup so that there are two glass containers, each of which contains a cloud of gas - composed of billions of caesium gas atoms. The press release gets into the specifics: The two glass containers are not connected to each other, but information is teleported from the one glass cloud to the other by means of laser light. The light is sent into the first glass container and then that strange quantum phenomenon takes place, the light and gas become entangled. The fact that they are entangled means that they have established a quantum link - they are synchronised. Both glass containers are enclosed in a chamber with a magnetic field and when the laser light (with a specific wavelength) hits the gas atoms, the outermost electrons in the atoms react -like magnetic needles - by pointing in the same direction. The direction can be up or down, and it is this direction that makes up quantum information, in the same way that regular computer information is made up of the numbers 0 and 1. The gas now emits photons (light particles) containing quantum information. The light is sent on to the other gas container and the quantum information is now read from the light and registered by a detector. The signal from the detector is sent back to the first container and the direction of the atoms’ electrons are adjusted in relation to the signal. This completes the teleportation from the second to the first container. The research and experiments are done at room temperature, which means that the gas atoms are moving rather rapidly - at a speed of 200 meters per second in the glass container. This creates a problem of sorts - when the atoms bump into the glass wall, they lose the information that they have been encoded with. To address this the researchers applied a rather common-sense, simple and effective solution. 'We use a coating of a kind of paraffin on the interior of the glass contains and it causes the gas atoms to not lose their coding, even if they bump into the glass wall,” says Professor Eugene Polzik. 'It sounds like an easy solution, but in reality it was complicated to develop the method. Another element of the experiment was to develop the detector that registers the photons.” For this, a particularly sensitive detector was developed over time - it’s effective enough at detecting the photons, that, as of now, it has worked every single time. Obviously though, lab tests are one thing, cost-effective useful application in the world is another. 'In the experiment, the teleportation’s range is ½ meter - hardly impressive in a world where information must be transported around the world in no time.” 'The range of ½ meter is entirely due to the size of the laboratory,” states Eugene Polzik. 'We could increase the range if we had the space and, in principle, we could teleport information, for example, to a satellite.” But the range really isn’t that important, the real success of this recent research is with regards to how reliable the new method is - paving the way towards what the researchers think will be the 'quantum communication network of the future.” The new technique was recently detailed in a paper published in the scientific journal Nature Physics.

Where is memory stored part 2

But there needs to be a dual theory. If mind and memory are diffused wave patterns, then there has to be a theory of how they interact with our bodies on the macro level.

          It appears that on the quantum level, there is no sophisticated theory to incorporate the energy in your body into biology. We measure the electromagnetic pulses of the heart in an electrocardiogram, and we’re always improving our imaging of brain scans, but the energy patterns of the body itself are only at the very early stages of being mapped, and it is these energy pulses that create the same kind of interference patterns that you see in a hologram. These energy pulses also create auras, which we’re able to capture on certain types of film, and it is these auras that can reach out and intersect other energy pulses that everything around us emits. We are, in essence, reducing our bodies into simple energy for such analyses.

In the 1600s, blood was just blood, and when a man was ill, it was because he had some bad blood. So, the doctors cut him and drained out the bad blood. Today, we know that blood is not merely some red liquid coursing through our bodies that needs to be drained when we have any sort of disease. It’s a life-giving solution rife with white cells, red cells, plasma, leucocytes, and all sorts of things that are carried through our body. Today, however, our view of our body’s energy patterns is just as primitive as the seventeenth century’s ideas about blood. Three hundred years from now we may have a more detailed knowledge of the body’s energy patterns, because right now we are finding that these energy patterns can intersect and interact with other energy patterns at the quantum level, resulting in the ability to carry vast amounts of information.

But our bodies are designed to limit this information. We have built-in blind spots that do not prevent us from seeing some of  the reality of this life, but that do prevent us from seeing the greater reality around us. We hear in a certain range and see in certain wave lengths. We cannot see infrared wave lengths, but they exist.

I do not want to speculate here about the purpose of life, but I do want us to acknowledge and accept as truth that which science can replicate and repeat.

 

Scientifically, then, how do we separate mind and body for the point of this discussion? If our memories are stored holographically throughout our bodies, how do we separate mind and body?

 

 

Where is memory stored

Ask yourself, “where is memory stored?” “It is stored in the mind” is a good answer, for the mind must access your memory to operate, so that you can be you. Scientists have been researching memory, trying to determine where and how it is housed.

           For over thirty years, the great neuropsychologist Karl Lashley worked at the Yerkes Laboratory of Primate Biology when it was located in Orange Park, Florida, where he was involved in an ongoing search for the elusive mechanisms responsible for memory. There Dr. Karl Pribram was able to witness the fruits of Lashley’s labors firsthand. Dr. Pribram was another scientist (and professor) working on the holographic brain theory. This was in 1946.

          During his tenure, Lashley trained rats on different tasks, such as running a maze. He tested their performance, then surgically removed various portions of their brains and tested them again. His aim was, literally, to cut out their memory. Where was it? Which section of the rats’ brain remembered the maze? He reasoned that ultimately, he would burn the part of the brain that housed that memory—and perhaps memory in general—with his wife’s curling iron. The experiment was a bit crude, but again, this was the 1940s.

However, “to his surprise, he found that no matter what portion of their brains he cut out, he could not eradicate their memories. Often, the rats’ motor skills were impaired and they stumbled clumsily through the mazes, but even with massive portions of their brains removed, their memories remained stubbornly intact” (Talbot 2001, 12–13). No matter what part of their brain was burned, the rats were always able to navigate the maze.

Working with Lashley was a young neurosurgery resident named Karl Pribram. “For Pribram, these were incredible findings. If memories possessed specific locations in the brain the same way that books possess specific locations on library shelves, why didn’t Lashley’s surgical plunderings have any effect on them? For Pribram, the only answer seemed to be that memories were not localized at specific brain sites, but were somehow spread out or distributed throughout the brain as a whole.” However, they were both left with no answer to the question of how memory could be stored throughout the brain until the mid-1960s, when Pribram read an article in Scientific American describing the first construction of a hologram.

          Holography exists thanks to a phenomenon called interference. Interference is the crisscrossing pattern that occurs when two or more waves, such as waves of water, ripple through each other. For example, if you drop a pebble into a pond, it will produce a series of concentric waves that expands outward. If you drop two pebbles into a pond, you will get two sets of waves that expand and pass through one another. The complex arrangement of crests and troughs that results from such collisions is known as an interference pattern.

          Any wavelike phenomena can create an interference pattern, including light and radio waves. Because laser light is an extremely pure, coherent form of light, it is especially good at creating interference patterns. It provides, in essence, the perfect pebble. As a result, it wasn’t until the invention of the laser that holograms, as we know them today, became possible. These are the holograms you are likely most familiar with.

          A hologram is produced when a single laser light is split into two separate beams. The first beam is bounced off the object to be photographed. Then the second beam is allowed to collide with the reflected light of the first. When this happens, they create an interference pattern which is then recorded on a piece of film.

          To the naked eye, the image on the film looks nothing at all like the object photographed. In fact, it even looks a little like the concentric rings that form when a handful of pebbles is tossed into a pond. But as soon as another laser beam (or in some instances a bright light) is shined through the film, a three-dimensional image of the original object reappears. The three-dimensionality of such images is often eerily convincing. You can actually walk around a holographic projection and view it from different angles as you would a real object. However, if you reach out and try to touch it, your hand will waft right through it and you will discover there is nothing solid, just light (Talbot 2001, 14–15).

          There is, however, another fascinating trait about holographic film besides its ability to display three-dimensional images.

Three-dimensionality is not the only remarkable aspect of holograms. If a piece of holographic film containing the image of an apple is cut in half and then illuminated by a laser, each half will still be found to contain the entire image of the apple! Even if the halves are divided again and then again, an entire apple can still be reconstructed from each small portion of the film (although the images will get hazier as the portions get smaller). Unlike normal photographs, every small fragment of a piece of holographic film contains all the information recorded in the whole.

          This was precisely the feature that got Pribram so excited, for it offered at last a way of understanding how memories could be distributed rather than localized in the brain. If it was possible for every portion of a piece of holographic film to contain all the information necessary to create a whole image, then it seemed equally possible for every part of the brain to contain all of the information necessary to recall a whole memory (Talbot 2001, 16–17).   

          Here is where it becomes interesting. If you cut the holographic film you made of a person in half and shine a laser through each half, you get two complete holograms of your person. Cut your film into ten or one hundred pieces and you get ten or one hundred complete holograms of that person, one for every little scrap of film, thanks to interference. Even though the image from the film gets fuzzier with every subsequent cut, each slice of the film contains the entire image.  

So, do we have evidence of this kind of thing at the macro level?

In 1988, Claire Sylvia received a heart and double lung transplant. Following the operation, she underwent some apparent personality changes: she began to have unusual (for her) cravings for beer, green peppers, and chicken nuggets; she dreamt about beautiful women and experienced homosexual urges. She also dreamt of meetings with a young man called Tim. Alarmed, Sylvia sought out her donor’s family and discovered her new organs had belonged to an 18-year-old boy. His name was Tim. Tim had a penchant for the same foods she was craving—he was actually eating chicken nuggets when he died—and Sylvia felt he was the boy in her dreams. (Talbot 2001, 154–155)

So what does this show? Your memory is stored holographically throughout your entire body. Your mind must be able to access your memory, so your mind must be able to operate throughout your entire body.

Why is remote viewing supportive of the argument proving reincarnation?

First of all remote viewing has not only been proven but the best physicists in the world say "We should no longer spend research money on trying to prove this phenomenon but should spend research money on learning how to better use this proven ability."

So then why does this support the science of reincarnation? It is something called proof of concept. In order to prove reincarnation first you must prove the human mind is capable of being outside the human body. Then you must prove every other phenomenon lines up with this explanation.

Remote viewing has proven we can look anywhere at any time. Russell Targ, the scientist who lead and developed the remote viewing protocols for the CIA and the Army at Stanford University said in a lecture to the Russians that nothing can be kept secret anymore. His remote viewers were able to read file names in locked file cabinets at CIA headquarters.

So why should this well documented research support the scientific idea of reincarnation? It is not enough as religions claim, to say that your “Soul” contains your consciousness. If that is the case then our “Soul” should exhibit the same abilities when it resides in our body as it does after our deaths. In short your mind should be able to exist in other places than your body in order to prove reincarnation. Remote viewing shows that time and space are not physical limitations to your minds ability to look, or travel, to what you want to see.

So how does this line up with other phenomenon that we see. Clairvoyance is a form of remote viewing. Remote viewing is targeted; clairvoyance can be but occasionally happens to all of us. Each one of us has these abilities, some have a talent for it, or can do it better, but all of us can do it. Clairvoyance is just another facet of this phenomenon. But can these abilities exist without your body? That would prove the soul.

Well the body that you had 2 years ago no longer exists. You stomach lining is replaced every day, your skin every 6 weeks, every molecule in the enamel of your teeth and you bones every two years. So who are you?

What is permanent about you is your consciousness, not your physical being. You wear this form for a period of time and then shed it like you shed the body of the child you were.

A blog is about short ideas. It’s great for simple presentations but for complex arguments it takes installments. Follow-ups to this argument will be the location of memory, where it is stored and how it is stored. If your body changes every two years completely then how do you remember what happened when you were a child? If you can do that then why is surprising that some children remember prior lives?